Remote reservoirs or not

[AndyK5]

I am trying to piece together some information on if remote reservoirs are worth the price on a coil over system, specifically MCS 2 ways.

So far this is what I have, please add yours to the list.

Pro:
Can hold more fluid which makes it ride better and last longer in longer sessions
Can handle bumps sharper than 3.5inch per second with the bypass valve
Nitrogen pressure can be adjusted to change behavior of the damper
Has longer travel, shock part is smaller

Con:
More expensive to buy
More expensive and harder to install
Might get hit with a handicap/point for time trials

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[razorlab]

You can be fast with even 1 way or 2 way NR as well.

Honestly, the MCS ride awesome for their capability even without remotes.

I was going through this same decision last year and where I personally got was, I'm not competing so why spend that much more $$$

The fastest Supra at Lime Rock with stock power is only 2 secs off Jackie Dings time and it runs 1 way NR MCS @garudathree

Also to note. 1 way NR can be upgraded to remote but 2 way NR cannot without a SIGNIFICANT cost, basically almost as much as just buying 2 way Remote outright. Has to do with the internals.

 

[garudathree]

you flatter me! I think the low cost option is to have a race shop familiar with the chassis figure out the damper and spring rate specs for you to start with, then you can skip the low speed compression config trial and error (springs do that for you for the most part). Rebound is a must have to tune weight transfer timing, and chassis attitude if your setup is pitch sensitive (eg my front rebound is maxed out to increase cornering time spent with my splitter at 5* aoa).

 

[AndyK5]

You can be fast with even 1 way or 2 way NR as well.

Honestly, the MCS ride awesome for their capability even without remotes.

I was going through this same decision last year and where I personally got was, I'm not competing so why spend that much more $$$

The fastest Supra at Lime Rock with stock power is only 2 secs off Jackie Dings time and it runs 1 way NR MCS @garudathree

Also to note. 1 way NR can be upgraded to remote but 2 way NR cannot without a SIGNIFICANT cost, basically almost as much as just buying 2 way Remote outright. Has to do with the internals.

you flatter me! I think the low cost option is to have a race shop familiar with the chassis figure out the damper and spring rate specs for you to start with, then you can skip the low speed compression config trial and error (springs do that for you for the most part). Rebound is a must have to tune weight transfer timing, and chassis attitude if your setup is pitch sensitive (eg my front rebound is maxed out to increase cornering time spent with my splitter at 5* aoa).

Main reason why I am asking is I was offered a used/open box remote 2 way set about $1k more than a 2NR and am contemplating if I should do one or the other. I will do the install myself and remote res install is a con on top of the $1k but I'll be gaining a significantly more valuable part on my car. Just not sure how much of that "gain" will translate to performance.

 

[razorlab]

Main reason why I am asking is I was offered a used/open box remote 2 way set about $1k more than a 2NR and am contemplating if I should do one or the other. I will do the install myself and remote res install is a con on top of the $1k but I'll be gaining a significantly more valuable part on my car. Just not sure how much of that "gain" will translate to performance.

Remote res isn't hard to install. Fronts go into the engine bay easy. Rears go through the battery box. There are plugs you punch out on each side.

One additional cost is buying a nitrogen tank for re-filling/tweaking.

 

[AndyK5]

Remote res isn't hard to install. Fronts go into the engine bay easy. Rears go through the battery box. There are plugs you punch out on each side.

One additional cost is buying a nitrogen tank for re-filling/tweaking.

Yeah I was thinking just leaving them at the stock nitrogen pressure, though it will probably go down over time. The other thing is if I end up installing the remotes by disconnecting them I would need to get them charged...so yeah probably gonna need a nitrogen tank setup.

 

[razorlab]

Yeah I was thinking just leaving them at the stock nitrogen pressure, though it will probably go down over time. The other thing is if I end up installing the remotes by disconnecting them I would need to get them charged...so yeah probably gonna need a nitrogen tank setup.

Front I think you can do without disconnecting. Rear you have to disconnect for sure.

Actually, if I remember correctly we had to disconnect both front/rear.

You can also go through the vents in the back but they are much harder to get to.

 

[AndyK5]

Front I think you can do without disconnecting. Rear you have to disconnect for sure.

Actually, if I remember correctly we had to disconnect both front/rear.

You can also go through the vents in the back but they are much harder to get to.

and they don't come with an installation manual.

 

[razorlab]

and they don't come with an installation manual.

I mean... four bolts up top, 1 bolt below, spread knuckle.

rear is three bolts up top, one bolt below.

MCS is also awesome with support.

 

[razorlab]

@AndyK5 who set them up/put them together originally?

MCS only sells the parts. Their vendors do the assembly and everyone does it different.

I ordered mine from Vorshlag and they absolutely sucked so much ass. Almost to the point I barely believe they even ever installed them on a Supra. They also sucked so much ass on the support side. So I did my own figuring out and bought my own ADDITIONAL parts to make them work right. MCS also helped with some setup questions.

Point is, the vendor who sets them up makes a big difference... and Vorshlag sucks. Terry is horrible and I am not the only person that thinks that. After paying $5k+, they lost a customer and I will absolutely sway anyone from using them... as you can tell.

 

[AndyK5]

@AndyK5 who set them up/put them together originally?

MCS only sells the parts. Their vendors do the assembly and everyone does it different.

I ordered mine from Vorshlag and they absolutely sucked so much ass. Almost to the point I barely believe they even ever installed them on a Supra. They also sucked so much ass on the support side. So I did my own figuring out and bought my own ADDITIONAL parts to make them work right. MCS also helped with some setup questions.

Point is, the vendor who sets them up makes a big difference... and Vorshlag sucks. Terry is horrible and I am not the only person that thinks that. After paying $5k+, they lost a customer and I will absolutely sway anyone from using them... as you can tell.

Yeah I have heard that from you before. These shocks were setup by racewerkz which was recommended by MCS themselves. Yeah I mean if I can digest the remote reservoir installation part I think i am gonna do that.

 

[decodeddiesel]

Also to note. 1 way NR can be upgraded to remote but 2 way NR cannot without a SIGNIFICANT cost, basically almost as much as just buying 2 way Remote outright. Has to do with the internals.

This is the reason why I have decided to go with the 1WNR. I would like remotes eventually, but the 1-ways will be plenty for now.

 

[noogie]

Main reason why I am asking is I was offered a used/open box remote 2 way set about $1k more than a 2NR and am contemplating if I should do one or the other. I will do the install myself and remote res install is a con on top of the $1k but I'll be gaining a significantly more valuable part on my car. Just not sure how much of that "gain" will translate to performance.

If you don’t get the NR for yourself, do you mind messaging me the sellers contact info? I may be interested in them.

 

[Thraxbert]

Don't forget to buy a strut spreader for the fronts!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1PGN7N7

 

[AndyK5]

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Don't forget to buy a strut spreader for the fronts!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B1PGN7N7

thanks for reminding me this.

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