Wheel Sizes and Offsets - HELP (after many hours searching this forum)

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I am getting a 2021 A91 (Nocturnal) sometime in the next two weeks and have been thinking about new wheels. Either bronze or silver. Multi-spoke. Staggered either 19x9 / 19x10 OR 19 x 9.5 / 19 x 11. Stock suspension. From what I can tell the "stock" offset for factory wheels is +22 front and +35 rear.

I've researched wheels from various companies and they have different offsets (which I get, sorta - based on the width of the wheel??) Are there specific offsets for each of the staggered setups I'm looking at that would work - no rubbing???

I've read tons of posts on this forum (which is excellent BTW) but can't find anything concrete. My budget is $700/wheel if that helps.

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I have bc forged.. the +22 front and +35 rear is what I have..20” wheels though..
Offset is the same for 19” wheels..
Car is lowered on swift springs and no rubbing..

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Thanks! And yep - looked at it - from what I can tell the wheels Apex recommends at +25 front an +40 rear which is a good place to start - I also emailed them specifically and they replied that indeed - their wheels SM-10 ET25 and ET40 would work. I was hoping I could find a range - something like for a 19x9.5 - you can run +23 - +30 for example. This would allow me to look at a broader selection of wheels other than just +25.
 

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The issue with a broad range of just offsets like that is that offset and width matter. A 9.5" rim with a 22 offset will fit very differently than an 11" rim with the same 22 offset. The other thing that will affect fitment is spoke design and brake caliper clearance, two different rims with the same measurements (9.5" wide 22 offset for example) one may fit and the other won't.

My suggestion is to start looking for designs that you like and then narrow in on the available options in that design and come up with a few options to look at specific rims and measurements. Some will work, some might not, chances are once you find something you like, someone has already put a set on and can guide you to the best offset and widths to go with. If you are wanting to run something unique, you may have to take an educated guess and chance that they'll work (that's what I'm doing :oops:).

There was a website that had a great size comparison tool, but the last time I checked it was down for updating. Willtheyfit is a current option that does a decent job showing you the comparison in sizes and fit between two different options (https://www.willtheyfit.com/).

Good luck!!
 

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Thanks! And yep - looked at it - from what I can tell the wheels Apex recommends at +25 front an +40 rear which is a good place to start - I also emailed them specifically and they replied that indeed - their wheels SM-10 ET25 and ET40 would work. I was hoping I could find a range - something like for a 19x9.5 - you can run +23 - +30 for example. This would allow me to look at a broader selection of wheels other than just +25.
Currently, my front wheels are Titan 7's 19x9.5 +34. I've also tested with a 10mm spacer with no issues. So it would be safe to say 19x9.5 +24 to +34 offset will work. If you get coil overs or HKS adjustable springs, you will have more room for larger wheel backspacing in the front.
 

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19x9.5/19x10.5-11 is the most popular staggered setup. We have many wheels in stock with that fitment.

Titan7 TR10 is a popular multispoke option that we carry.

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For 9.5/11 - https://www.supramkv.com/threads/pi...s-on-stock-suspension-supras.8421/post-151851

For 9.5/10.5 -https://www.supramkv.com/threads/pics-of-aftermarket-wheels-on-stock-suspension-supras.8421/post-182218

For 9/10 -https://www.supramkv.com/threads/pics-of-aftermarket-wheels-on-stock-suspension-supras.8421/post-176186
Thanks! - I looked through those last night
The issue with a broad range of just offsets like that is that offset and width matter. A 9.5" rim with a 22 offset will fit very differently than an 11" rim with the same 22 offset. The other thing that will affect fitment is spoke design and brake caliper clearance, two different rims with the same measurements (9.5" wide 22 offset for example) one may fit and the other won't.

My suggestion is to start looking for designs that you like and then narrow in on the available options in that design and come up with a few options to look at specific rims and measurements. Some will work, some might not, chances are once you find something you like, someone has already put a set on and can guide you to the best offset and widths to go with. If you are wanting to run something unique, you may have to take an educated guess and chance that they'll work (that's what I'm doing :oops:).

There was a website that had a great size comparison tool, but the last time I checked it was down for updating. Willtheyfit is a current option that does a decent job showing you the comparison in sizes and fit between two different options (https://www.willtheyfit.com/).

Good luck!!
Thanks A.J. - good feedback and explanation - makes sense - appreciate the time!
 
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Currently, my front wheels are Titan 7's 19x9.5 +34. I've also tested with a 10mm spacer with no issues. So it would be safe to say 19x9.5 +24 to +34 offset will work. If you get coil overs or HKS adjustable springs, you will have more room for larger wheel backspacing in the front.
Awesome - that gives me some good info to add to my research - what are you running on the back if you don't mind me asking - and what tires?
 

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Awesome - that gives me some good info to add to my research - what are you running on the back if you don't mind me asking - and what tires?
Current Setup:
Front: 19x9.5 +35 Titan 7 TS-5 (275/30 Falken RT660)
Rear: 19x11 +40 Titan 7 TS-5 (305/30 Falken RT660)

Upcoming Square Setup:
Front & Rear: 19x11 +40 Titan 7 TS-5 (305/30 Falken RT660)
 
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Thanks for the setup info! Looking forward to the new square set up - just curious - what's prompted you to go square/ Or is it just the ability to do a full rotation front and back? Thanks!
 
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LOL - They are some good looking wheels! That being said - I saw a car in the pic gallery (Black) with gloss silver BBS LM's - awesome look - just can't afford them at the moment (sigh).... so I am trying to find a less expensive alternative with a similar look....
 

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Thanks for the setup info! Looking forward to the new square set up - just curious - what's prompted you to go square/ Or is it just the ability to do a full rotation front and back? Thanks!
More grip in the front mainly. Being able to rotate the tires is a plus.
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