Dyno numbers on stage 2

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I put the car on a dyno. Its a 2021 tunable one. I put a mst intake and 4 5 inch powerneedy catted downpipe. Then a stage 2 tune. What you guys think about this numbers. To me i think they are kind of low

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You somehow ended up with less HP than a lot of cars produce while stock. That's unfortunate. What was the DA and/or your altitude? Your #'s could make sense if you're in Colorado, or some other high altitude location, but if you're at sea level, I'd be asking for my money back.

Don't suppose you have a stock dyno to compare against, do you? That's really what dyno's are good for, comparing the power made or lost when mods are done.
 

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those numbers are almost identical to my jb4 disabled with a AA catted DP and MST intake. You sure you had your tune loaded?
My car was admittedly heatsoaked when I did my map 6 pulls but I still got 470lbft and a few more HP.
 

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What's a Stage 2?
 

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Those look like stock numbers. Get some E in there. That will bump it up a bit.
 
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By the way, the car was tune in a different place. Was not tuned where the dyno is at. Temperature was in around 40 degrees and humidity was around 50 degrees
 

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When I thought I had flashed a stage 2 OTS tune, the file name said stage 2, but it was actually a stock file. Didnā€™t dyno it, but times donā€™t lie.

Was a minor hiccup.

Tuner sent me a proper stage 2 file, and I was good to go. Are you sure youā€™re tuned?

Do you have a dragy? Maybe itā€™s just a (very) low reading dyno.
 

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Really need a baseline on the same dyno to make any conclusions. At least a dyno with stock tuning. Otherwise, we can't relate these numbers to anything. Also, what is a stage 2 tune?
 

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What's a Stage 2?
Also, what is a stage 2 tune?
You guys really havenā€™t seen where platforms start to simplify modding/tuning progression into simple terms (stages) despite the community knowing there are nuances to every build.

For the MKV Supra (and many other factory boosted platforms), stage 2 is, generally speaking, downpipe+ECU (or piggyback) tune that takes advantage of the additional flow a downpipe adds. But you and I both know that, and youā€™re just being facetious. Speaking in stages also simplifies the general power range to be expected before getting past the bolt on stage.

FWIW, I find ā€œstagesā€ both helpful in my context and funny in your context. Every mod + DA + brand of gas in every conversation is too specific. Stages are too simple. /rant

(also, not serious)
 

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You guys really havenā€™t seen where platforms start to simplify modding/tuning progression into simple terms (stages) despite the community knowing there are nuances to every build.

For the MKV Supra (and many other factory boosted platforms), stage 2 is, generally speaking, downpipe+ECU (or piggyback) tune that takes advantage of the additional flow a downpipe adds. But you and I both know that, and youā€™re just being facetious. Speaking in stages also simplifies the general power range to be expected before getting past the bolt on stage.

FWIW, I find ā€œstagesā€ both helpful in my context and funny in your context. Every mod + DA + brand of gas in every conversation is too specific. Stages are too simple. /rant

(also, not serious)
I have a Stage 4 - BPU++++++++++ * -1
 

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Well it really depends on what your baseline was, you need to compare before and after which is really all that matters.

We went uncatted but intake + uncatted DP (we also did the chargepipe but that's negligible), we did 417/519 but who knows what that would make on 3 different dynos. We baselined it stock, so I made 315/360 baseline. That means we made +102whp/+157wtq over stock which is pretty saucy on 91 octane and I guess what you consider stage 2

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After the tune final numbers:
 

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Honestly the purpose of a dyno should be compared to baseline and what you gained from it. And numbers don't mean anything until you actually put it to the test. What's the 1/4 mile? 60 foot? Trapspeed? Does it run smoother? etc.
 

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Honestly the purpose of a dyno should be compared to baseline and what you gained from it. And numbers don't mean anything until you actually put it to the test. What's the 1/4 mile? 60 foot? Trapspeed? Does it run smoother? etc.
Correct, see my post above. It should only be to measure gains over stock.
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